1.02.2025

Anybody else eyeing that new Sigma Art lens? You know, that 28-105mm f2.8 zoom? Sony E and L mount users only... sadly.

President George H.W. Bush and Michael Dell. ©KirkTuck

I wrote a piece this morning about using three Leicas to photograph fast breaking action in corporate photography work. It was more or less a reflection of how we used to use Leica M cameras professionally back in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s. After I wrote about it I was responding to some historical image requests from clients this morning and I came across a bunch of images I took for various clients which included not only "captains" of industry but also presidents, foreign dignitaries, inventors and the like. And I remembered the transition in the early digital days from prime lenses to zoom lenses for work like that. 

While I was a big fan of Leica M cameras in the 1990s the company didn't really enter the digital camera space until Fall of 2006 with the troublesome M8 model. Although introduced in 2006 the M8 was not widely available until the middle of 2008. It came complete with a set of frame lines that didn't match the focal lengths of the most useful lenses, a loud as fuck shutter and a horrible tendency to deliver a magenta cast if used without an IR cut filter. The Kodak CCD sensor delivered good colors, once you added an IR blocking filter to whatever lens you were shooting with. Leica also eliminated the anti-aliasing filter which was, in retrospect, a really bad idea. At 10 megapixels the lack of the AA filter meant that just about any subject with repeating lines/patterns would bloom with moiré like a weird kaleidoscopic nightmare. 

All of this meant that back in 2004 or 2005 when I made this photograph (above) I needed to use a different brand of digital camera and attendant lenses. For me that meant something like a Nikon D2Hs and a Nikon 28-70mm f2.8 lens. What I would have given back then for a super well corrected 28-105mm f2.8 lens that focused accurately and quickly....

But, with the gear at the time I was still able to deliver the needed shots. Although with more effort than it should have taken. The big plus at the time was that Nikon had electronic flash incorporation well figured out. That was a defining feature in the early days of digital. But yeah. A president and a billionaire captured posterity with a 4 megapixel camera...

I just got a note about an hour ago that I'd "won" the proposal to be the still photographer on a day long video shoot that's scheduled for next week. I'll be shooting during the "no audio" b-roll takes and also setting up or duplicating other shots that I won't be able to get while the video crew is shooting interviews and what not --- with sound. The shots I've been asked to take don't require highly specialized anything and most will fall handily in the 24 to 90mm range offered by my Leica 24-90mm zoom lens. But, as usual, I've been ruminating about the short comings of that lens. They are only a few but the one literal shortcoming is that the lens tops out at 90mm with an f-stop of 4.0. I'd love the lens even more if it zoomed out to 105 or even 120mm (memories of the Nikon 24-120....). The second shortcoming is the variable aperture which, as I just wrote above, is limited to f4.0 and smaller at the longest focal length. 

I started thinking about how nice it would be to try out the recently introduced Sigma Art lens that offers high optical correction, a range of focal lengths from 28-105 and a non-variable maximum aperture, at all focal ranges, of f2.8. I'll try to restrain myself because, of course, the 24-90mm is perfectly capable of delivering what the client needs. But I keep torturing myself, wondering how much more I could throw out of focus in backgrounds with a bit longer long end and a one stop greater maximum aperture. 

Still, the lens isn't much lighter or less cumbersome than the Leica (at 2.1 pounds) and I have the idea that as good as the Sigma might be I know from experience that the Leica zoom is phenomenally good and has the advantage of being well proven --- at least to me. Still, if I was starting from scratch on lens selections in the L mount family I can pretty much guarantee that the Sigma 28/105 Art zoom would be among my very first choices.

The second newly released Sigma zoom I have my eye on is the 28mm to 45mm f1.8, full frame, Art Series lens. I know it's a very short zoom range but it's a useful one. I owned the Sigma Art Series 24-35mm f2.0 lens for Nikon F cameras a few years back and, optically, it was one of the best lenses I've shot with, including primes. It left the market during the great march to mirrorless and I, for one, lamented its passing. My thought is that the new short focal range zoom lens might even be a better match for much of the way I work and it would give me a stop and a third more of light than the big Leica at corresponding focal lengths. Plus it would be wildly eccentric and therefore highly interesting. Maybe no new camera bodies in 2025 but I never promised anything about new lenses....right? 

Anything else seem compelling to you out there right now? If so, let me know in the comments. And I'll let you know if I toss away money at more exotic lenses. 

Sure would have been a joy to have the Sigma 28-105mm f2.8 Art lens for that day of documentary photography back in 2004..... Well, and one of the various, newer 24 megapixel cameras as well....

 

11 comments:

  1. Yes, I'm eyeing the 28-105/2.8 - have you seen those sunstars?! - and the 28-45/1.8 (I too shot the 24-35/2 on F mount).

    Here's my conundrum and I'd like to pick your brains on this if I may: I'm an L mount shooter (Panasonic) and I'm wondering whether to invest any further in the system or sell up and go over to Sony. I know there're rumours about an S1RII, but I just can't see it. They're too late now and everyone's gone with Canikony. And here's the kicker: it's reckoned that Sigma and Lumix lenses don't work properly on the Leica cameras due to a different sensor cover glass thickness. There aren't that many people in a position to comment on this so what's your experience please? Performance of Sigma and Lumix lenses on the high resolution Leica cameras? You can see what I'm thinking can't you: if Panasonic quit I can sell a kidney and buy an SL3!

    I don't want to abandon the L mount but I'm rapidly losing confidence in its future. I'm within a whisker of buying an A7RV and the above lenses in E mount...

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    1. Probably too late for the next week assignment (congratulations) but perhaps you should consider a Nikon Z with the Z version 24-120 f4. Thom Hogan thinks highly of it. Might be a nice reunion with Nikon if you’re up to another system. Have a great new year! RThomasTacoma.

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    2. Thanks but I'm not switching systems again. I'm overall very happy with the Leica cameras. A Sigma zoom would be my only detour from the system. Thanks!

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    3. Kirk, i transitioned back to Sony in 2024, and have been selling a large stable of Panasonic FF gear. (many of my lenses were excellent newer Sigmas). What got me to try Sony again was the A7Cii. The small size. It turns out to be a winner! The clincher has been the huge lens selection. Sony lenses of the recent 5 years are as good as anything out there. But i can't bring myself to pop for GM ones at twice the price of really fine Tamron & sigma. I've gotten 3 superb Sony G lenses = small and affordable. I'm blown away by 3 Tam zooms: 28-75f2.8G2 ($700!) 28-200 (makes the 14-140 look "meh") and a 50-400. But my fav "best-buys" are the Samyang "tiny" series of f1.8 primes, which are tiny, sharp, and cheap. That's quite a trifecta (-; I have the 24, 45 & 75 - but not the 35. NICE TO HAVE SUCH GOOOD OPTIONS everywhere in Cameraland.
      PS: Sony has an amazing 28-70 f2 (900g, $2900, and not-so-wide) always compromises

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    4. Alex, you can't go wrong anywhere in "camera land" these days. But you can see (below) my joy having switched from Lumix to sony. I also broke down and bought the A7Rv, which is pretty amazing. But i am having more trouble now getting the Lumix Jpeg colors I loved for night city-scapes, my fav genre. Beware (as you know?) it get very expensive to switch systems. Even buying used, u never seem to get even selling the old stuff, esp w/ a less popular system like Panasonic.

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  2. Kirk

    Early last September I succumbed to the Siren’s call of the Panasonic Lumix 50mm f1.4S lens for my Leica SL2 and Lumix S5. I know that you had one, and decided the heft was a bit much for an all day walk around lens, preferring the 50mm f1.8. But when comparing cost and performance to the Leica 50mm f2 ASPH, seemed like a no brainer; well maybe a twisted brainer. Plus, this lens gave me autofocus and 1/2 pound less weight compared to my Zeiss Milvus 50mm f1.4 ZE with Sigma Adapter, and my local dealer had a screaming good price for the lens as part of their annual sale. So, caution met irrational exuberance and the wind, as one might say. Over all it is too soon to say if the lens is really a worth addition to my collection of fast 50’s. But so far it has been fun.

    PaulB

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    1. The S Pro 50/1.4 is one of the best standard lenses ever made. I'm curious though as to whether these L mount lenses really work equally well on Panasonic and Leica cameras. I've got a lot of L mount lenses and I can't see Panasonic making cameras for very much longer, hence the question!

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    2. Hi Alex, I have to tell you that Panasonic lenses work really well on the Leica SL(variants) bodies. I've used the Panasonic 24-105mm, the 24-70mm f2.8, the S-Pro 50mm f1.4 and the 70-200mm f4.0 (also S-Pro) extensively. First on Panasonic S1 and S1R cameras and then, for the next three or four years on the SL, SL2 and SL2-S. In every regard they work exactly as intended. The only issue I ever encountered was notice on my original SL menu that one lens would draw more battery power. I upgraded the lens software and the message went away. No fears at all using the Panasonic lenses on a Leica body! And vice versa. I routinely use the big Leica 24-90mm on an older Panasonic S5 with no drop in performance. Hope this helps. Although I think Panasonic will continue with their S line for a good while to come. And even hope for an S1R-II later in 2025. With a 60 megapixel sensor and a lower price point it would certainly give the Leica SL3 a run for its money...

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    3. Thanks Kirk, that's most helpful. There aren't that many Panasonic shooters out there, and of those, even fewer who've shot Leica L too and tried the lenses across both manufacturers' cameras.

      I really don't want to abandon the L mount, and I love my Panasonic cameras - the handling and image quality are both sensational. But with a market share of ~2.5% or whatever it is, I'm just wondering how much longer the bean counters will continue to humour the Lumix division...

      You need a crystal ball don't you. That being said, if Panasonic quit the camera business today, I don't suppose that means that my cameras will suddenly stop working!

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  3. As I don't have a L mount camera, on the sony I have been eyeing the sony 24-50mm f28. as well as the aforementioned sigma zooms. The big sigma is rather heavy but optically it appears to be very, very good. I could do 99% of my shots with it and a 16-35mm zoom.

    The sony 24-50mm and the 28-45mm would be great on the streets, but it's more a case of do I need more light capturing capability or a smaller footprint on the lens. I am trying to get to all three for a test to see how they would stack up in my use scenario.
    In your case, Kirk, I think the 28-45mm would be the way to go, just because you already have the Leica zoom. Although, not checking prices, it might be possible to sell the Leica and get both Sigmas?

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  4. I am intrigued by smaller, less expensive lenses that have been developed for the latest digital systems. Like the 28mm f/2.8 and 40mm f/2 “muffin” lenses for the Nikon Z system, which I think would be perfect for personal shooting when walking around. Bigger lenses interest me less at the moment, but certainly make sense for cases like you described. Or for photography that requires use of long-telephoto lenses.

    I certainly understand why you would stay with one brand and/or system. If it works for you it works. Why change? I have been shooting with Nikon cameras for almost 30 years. I keep using them because they work for me.

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