2.05.2021

Relatively new lens. Very new camera. The Leica SL2 paired up with the Sigma 65mm f2.0. Does that work?


I know you're probably waiting for me to write a gushy review about the brand new Leica SL2 I picked up on Thursday, and to show you amazing photographs that could not be taken by any other camera, but I'm afraid it doesn't work that way. While the camera's color is tweaked in a certain way and the filter pack in front of the sensor is thinner than the one on the S1R I find that there's not a heck of a lot of difference between the two cameras. And I didn't think there really would be. It's pretty obvious that Leica and Panasonic are working hand-in-hand on these big, high res, mirrorless cameras and I actually would have been a bit shocked if there had been a big difference in image quality in either direction.

The Leica is, visually, a much nicer bit of industrial design but none of the spreadsheet jockeys here or on the WWW will take the value of better industrial design too seriously; not when two otherwise very similar performing cameras have a $2,000+ gap in price. 

So, what is the logic in buying such an expensive camera? Especially when it so obviously duplicates the capabilities of a camera I already own (Lumix S1R) and doesn't bring any radically new and different features to the mix? I could mention the clean look that having fewer buttons and knobs confers but, again, it's just industrial design differences which are, themselves, too subjective to measure. 

I think it mostly boils down to how the SL2 feels when you hold it in your hand or bring it up to your eye. 

For me it purchase was a symbolic capper to a long career during which I owned and used all generations of Leica cameras and became fond of most of them. Sentimental. Nostalgic.

I started shooting the interchangeable rangefinder models when all I could afford was a Leica IIIf, red dial screw mount camera, and an old 50mm Elmar f4.0 collapsible lens. You had to trim the leaders of your Tri-X film back then in order to load it into the camera, and the viewing window was tiny. Really, really tiny. But the overall camera package was small and discreet and I liked it so much that one day I put it in a small backpack, drove over to the airport and booked a ticket to Mexico City to shoot for fun for a week and a half. I didn't bring any other camera. I didn't own any other lenses that would work with the camera. But it was fun to shoot, maybe because it took discipline and newly learned skills to do it right. 

Later I "graduated" to a Leica M3 and a 50mm dual range Summicron lens. It was such a revelation. Still probably the best camera I ever shot with. It was the first one I took up in a helicopter. We went up to shoot a shot from the north of the state capitol building looking south into downtown. I was shooting Kodachrome 64 and the shots were done just before sunset. They were amazing. Pure luck but still amazing.

That shoot also generated my first copyright infringement lawsuit. A magazine copied the image from the cover of a glossy, color brochure I'd shot for a commercial client and used on their own magazine cover. The infringing company decided it would be alright because they used the image in black and white. But everyone could see right away that it was the same image. I settled out of court for enough money to buy a few more M lenses and both a Leicaflex SL and Leicaflex SL2. Both "Flexes" were bullet proof, mechanical, SLR film cameras which took the new (at the time) Leica R mount lenses. 

I picked up an original Leicaflex just to have and then went down the line picking up the R3, the R4, the R4sp, the R5 and finally a couple of R8's, as they emerged. In the mid-1990s I started using more M series cameras and ended up with an M6 and an M6.85 (larger view magnification for use with slightly longer lenses). I used those for nearly weekly event work for the better part of 8 years before succumbing to the lure of digital. 

I wrote a long article about the M series Leicas for Photo.net in 2000 which, by the time they decided the article had become passé and took it down, had generated millions and millions of page views and earned me an honorary membership to the Leica Historical Society. It was at an LHSA meeting in San Antonio that I had drinks in the hotel bar with the famous photographer, Jim Marshall. We had some good laughs in between professing our common high regard for the cameras. 

For over a decade I watched Leica struggle and go through multiple ownerships and buyouts. For a while I didn't believe they were going to make it through, financially. Then the M series cameras went to full frame sensors again and a raft of new M lenses appeared followed by both a medium format camera, and the first Leica SL. By the time they fleshed out their SL line of lenses and started the L-mount venture with Sigma and Panasonic I started paying attention again. 

I'm sure it was the three "Leica Certified" Lumix S-Pro lenses I'd bought for the Panasonic S series cameras that started me down the path to owning this new Leica camera because the 24-70mm, the 50mm and the 70-200mm are all superb lenses that lack nothing; as far as I'm concerned. 

The final mercantile "kick to the seat of my pants" that pushed me to go forward and get a new Leica camera was my purchase of the Sigma 65mm f2.8 L-mount lens. It's nothing short of phenomenal. It's sinisterly sharp at f2.0 and then becomes futuristically capable as one stops down. I like the look, the feel and the rendering of it and it convinced me that it wasn't necessary to run out and buy my favorite focal lengths in Leica SL models (at $5K to $10K a pop!!!) in order to put together a fun system around an SL2 body. I could buy the body I enjoyed looking at and handling and still get top quality imaging but at (compared to Leica) a discount price. 

I shot with the camera yesterday, together with the 65mm. It's not going to revolutionize my work or hoist me up into the photographic stratosphere of gifted artists. But it's fun, feels great and handles wonderfully. 

But I'll say it again: I never thought I'd pay $275 per battery for spares. That's just crazy. 

This blog post is peppered with random images from a long walk, both before and after seeing a new show of two artists at the Austin Contemporary Museum. One of the artists did work that was sublime and brilliant while the second gallery hosted a show of photographs that looked every bit like the haphazard portfolio of a clumsy, second year student in the commercial photography program at the local community college. It was a jarring juxtaposition but you go see what you can during a pandemic. The bad artist's manifesto (paraphrased): He eschews the ease of digital imaging with all of its post processing and manipulation and instead works in the "mythical" analog space, using film and chemicals and printing on photographic color paper. 

Making the case once again that some curators are blind. And that many artists are not self-aware.

the images here are 2200 pixels wide or about 1/4 of the camera's actual capabilities. click on them to make them bigger. But they still won't be big enough to make you catch your breath....





















 

18 comments:

Chris DC said...

Kirk

Great narrative. Great images. Thanks for entertaining me. I do completely understand what you mean about design and loving a camera that just feels right. It is tough to make good photos when one is annoyed by the camera.

Enjoy the new camera and keep the blog entries coming!!

CDC

Ronman said...

You've busted your ass, took care of the family and played by the rules throughout your life. Probably humbled yourself with some good financial advisors along the way as well. You've arrived at the point in life to have fun, count your blessings with humility, and enjoy what you've worked for. You owe no one an explanation for your camera decadence, but I do appreciate you sharing your thought process. Beautiful images by the way.

Kirk, Photographer/Writer said...

Thanks Ron and Chris. I don't feel like explaining myself but I do think it's cool to let people know what my motivations are. Maybe everyone else thinks differently but at least they'll have a data point.

Good financial advisors are GOOD. Everyone might want to find one. If you want to retire it helps to actually have some $$$ saved up.

We don't all have time to gamble on GameStock.

Mark the tog said...

The rationale I use: Does it make me happy?

My M4 was pure delight to shoot with.
Every outing was like going to the prom with the most exciting, interesting and beautiful girl in school.

My pictures were OK but my pleasure was many orders of magnitude greater than with my previous cameras.

crsantin said...

Images look great Kirk but Blogger has a tendency to crush everything that gets uploaded so I'm not seeing a huge difference on my screen. I'm sure it's a fine camera that is a pleasure to use. That's an interesting history you have with Leica. I've never shot with a Leica, never even held one. I would love to. I think all photographers who have more than a mild interest in making photographs understand what Leica is. The SL2 in metric up here in Canada is 9k after tax. Body only. That's a no for me. I look forward to your experiences with the camera. I'm very much interested in the user experience and not so much the tech specs. I've longed for a simple camera and the problem with so many new cameras today is the way they are absolutely loaded with options and features and pages of settings and menus. I just want a camera.

Chris DC said...

I will eco CR’s sentiment regarding complexity. I got the Olympus EM1x on its debut day. After two years of use I am only now feeling like I understand it’s functions. I appreciate the complexity and am able to simplify its operation as needed.

A simpler camera might be nice but then again my brain might get less exercise!!!

The SL2 is a gem, though.

CDC

Eric Rose said...

Good stuff Kirk, you deserve it! Now if you want to run with the cool kids you will have put black gaffer tape over the LEICA badge ;)

My remaining two M's both need CLA's. I guess I should get on top of that.

Eric

JC said...

Did you get a defective camera? Did they put the "Leica" on backwards?

JC

Michael Matthews said...

Even Blogger can’t undo the clarity of these photos. It’s clear the combination of lens and camera are proving to be an inspiration to you. If you’d pick the one you feel best demonstrates the results and post a link to where it can be seen full resolution - accompanied by a copyright notice threatening financial ruin for misuse - it would be most interesting to see. Take the link down after a day and block access to the image.
Only the faithful will enjoy the revelation.

Unknown said...

On the subject of that very nice 65 mm lens and shooting square (as you talked about a little while back), I did a bit of math, comparing a 24mm square sensor to a 56mm square of film (6x6).

65 / 24 * 56 = 152 mm

In other words, setting your SL2 to a square crop, you will get exactly the same angle of view as a 150mm lens on 6x6. Interesting, not ??

My only "square-enabled" camera is an OM-D, and the (inverse) math there goes:

150 / 56 * 13 = 35 mm

So for the fun of it, my next portrait shoot will be on a manual focus 35 mm lens (Zuiko 35/2.8 or Nikkor-O 35/2.0) in WLF mode (Screen flipped out), square crop, and set to B/W.

Mike Mundy said...

". . . practitioners working in photography in recent decades have sought to upend notions of authorship and originality in representational imagery while grappling with the concerns of conceptualism within a medium that is inherently grounded in reality."

Couldn't have said it better myself!

Anonymous said...

Kirk

Sometimes when you have that itch between your shoulder blades that says you should do something, the only way to get it to go away is to do it. No amount of logic that A is the same as B will convince that itch, and it will linger forever.

I look forward to you images using the M-lenses that you could not let go on the SL2. That is the itch that has been driving me crazy since mirrorless began.

PaulB

Unknown said...

Beautiful results from your new toy, excuse me, instrument for creative art. Sometimes a new camera leads to a renewed enthusiasm for our shared interest.

Now, wink, wink, you are going to surprise all of us by saying all these photos were done with your old Canon powershot G something or other.
Cheers and beers,
Jb

Chuck Albertson said...

Have fun with it. You're right about the price of the batts - for some reason, they're about $100 cheaper in the EU, so I picked up most of my spares on trips over there, back when you could travel.

Tom Farrell said...

I understand the appeal of a camera that feels good to use. When my RX1RII started to go wonky I got a used Leica Q to back it up for a European trip. Much simpler to use, less post-processing necessary, 28mm a nice change from 35mm, etc.. But the images just didn't draw me into them in the same way. There's something about the color choices Leica makes that doesn't jibe with me.

Of the cameras you've been using the Sigma fp gives the results I've liked the best. Another seemingly not too user-friendly box for picture taking, like the RX1. . . Ah well, choices, trade-offs.

Richard said...

Having used an M4 and a CL for a while, I can appreciate the Leica ethos, but interestingly, for the price of that SL2 you could have had either of the two latest top-of-the-market cameras, the Sony A1 or the Fuji GFX100s. Of course, neither of those work with your existing systems. Of course we all make our own choices for our own reasons. I’m just glad that Leitz is still a viable company and that they continue to make nice cameras, that are worthy of the company’s role in the history of photography. Thanks for helping support that, Kirk. As for myself, I’m probably waiting for the Fuji XH-2 or the Sony A7iv before I buy another camera. Shouldn’t be more than four or five months now…

Jon Maxim said...

Oscar Wilde said, The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it... I can resist everything but temptation.

I have to stop reading this blog because it may bankrupt me. I want one of everything you try. But... Always wanted to try Leica and I am foolish enough to spend money I can't afford on one. The only thing that has held me back is all the reports of how unreliable and cantankerous they are, especially considering their price.

Kirk, please keep us updated on how well the camera performs.
Or, come to think of it, don't - if it performs well. :)

scott kirkpatrick said...

Aha! Did you happen to pass one of the tiny new Sigma 24/3.5 L-mount lenses when you were in the store. Also incredibly sharp and seem to be distortion free. And you say you are going a bit wider... One interesting characteristic is that it focuses incredibly close (probably so does the 65). Not expensive, either. All for the cost of two batteries.