2.16.2019

Mr. R--------- R------ suggested: "Might be fun if you wrote a piece on why it's better to stick with one system rather than trying them all. :)"

Should we all just buy a Sony RX10 IV and be done with it for life?


Well....sure; why not? But what if I don't really believe that?

Let's try.

Many of my friends believe that my inconsistency with camera systems is an offshoot of our conversion (decades ago) to digital camera from film cameras. Somehow there is the notion that I bought a set of Nikon lenses and bodies, Hasselblad lenses and bodies, and Leica lenses and bodies, and used these for the entirety of the film-centric part of my (excruciatingly) long career.

Well, no. I started with some Canon FD stuff and then got pissed when Canon pulled the FD mount rug out from under our feet so I gave Nikon a try. The Nikons were fine but I was bored. I tried the Contax cameras. They were good and I was mostly happy until several of them fell apart in my hands. The last film centered system I owned (God! Business was good back then!!!) was a complete Leica R8 system with a couple of cameras and a bushel of R series lenses.

In the medium format realm I bounced back and forth between the Rollei 6000 series cameras and the Hasselblads; at one time owning a fair amount of both. In my defense we were shooting assignments six days a week and it was pretty easily to become comfortable in a bi-system environment. Each system had its set of interesting features.

But the era of camera buying driven by perceived NEED only arrived with professional digital equipment. We started with Kodak DCS cameras but $16,000 per body was hardly a sustainable business model. Happily, the Kodaks used the Nikon AF lenses so the transition to the much less expensive D1X camera was less painful (and thousands and thousands of dollars cheaper). What led me to abandon the Kodak cameras, which had such promise and such great files when shooting at ISO 80? Well, it was probably the 80 shot battery life and the fact that all the early cameras absolutely sucked at anything over 80 ISO. The Nikons were demonstrably better.

I could regale you all day long with rationales for my hopping adventures through the various catalogs of Olympus, Canon, Nikon, Panasonic and now Fuji but I'll cut to the chase to please Mr. R-----.

With the advantage of 20/20 hindsight I should have stopped right here: Nikon D700 (the best digital Nikon ever made.....still) the 80-200mm f2.8 AF-D zoom lens (sorry, no I.S. but no issues with the focal length becoming shorter as one focuses closer as in the later 70-200mm lenses, and just as sharp. And paid for) supplemented by the Nikon 28-70mm f2.8. Yes, you read that correctly. Not the 24-70mm f2.8 but it's optically much better predecessor, the 28-70mm 2.8 which spanks all subsequent Nikon mid-range zooms for sharpness and a general look that is more detailed and confident than anything following it.

The widest lens I ever owned for the Nikon system was a manual focusing 20mm f2.8 that worked perfectly and had minimal geometric distortions even though it was not correctly by voodoo in the camera bodies. 

With this equipment I could have done pretty much any assignment that came up in the 10 years since. Many will bitch and moan about resolution but I'm almost certain that in most cases we could easily use interpolation software to increase the overall file size and implied resolution and no one would be the wiser. Toss the D700 raw files at the latest rev of Lightroom and maybe you'd get the same resolution as native 16-18 megapixel files. Plus, the camera just worked all the time and the batteries lasted forever.

Everything since has been like extra cup holders or rear seat entertainment systems for the kids. Fun to have; convenient, but totally unnecessary. I'd go so far to say that if you can't do a job with a D700 and the lenses I listed above (go ahead and add in the 55 macro lens, if needed) using professional, industry standard techniques, then I would say the problem is with the user and not the gear. Professional cyclists don't need training wheels to compete in road races either.

So, what would I have gained? I'd probably have saved (according to some quick glances at my yearly tax spread sheets) something like $40,000 over the past ten years. (This is based on depreciation, deductions and trade-ins). I would know this gear so well that we could always finish each other's sentences.

So, no real differences in job applications, money in the bank (which I would have had to pay income taxes on...), and the thrill of knowing, as I ventured further down the path of image making, that I never took the path less traveled...

If you are inherently a cheap son of a bitch and need to watch every penny I conjecture that you could buy whatever the current top of the line Canon Rebel and two, maybe three of the f2.8 zooms and use them to complete professional assignments for the next ten or fifteen years. You could also watch your diet and wear the same pants for the next fifteen years. Buy a Honda, Toyota or Subaru, do all  your scheduled maintenance and replace everything that naturally wears out and you could drive the same car for 20 years......the seats might be a bit frayed but you'd probably be used to your Spartan existence by then.

I'd rather not shoot with the same cameras forever. I like to try new stuff. I want to see if there's really a difference in dynamic range with new sensors. I like the live view of current mirrorless cameras. I like EVFs better than optical finders (oh! the Heresy!!! Burn him. He must be a witch) and I like being able to inveigle my clients into paying me more money for a bit of video programming on the side.

I'd rather look at the cost/benefit analysis of any purchase through the lens of total net worth; not just the absolute cost of a product or service taken totally out of context.

Gear does wear out. It does become (for a tech forward client base) obsolete. The rise of 4K video and the embrace of this programming by clients is a salient point in this case. There are tax advantages to deducting new gear. But most of all the new gear keeps the game interesting, fun and engaging.

Do I need a 90mm f2.0 and a 50-140mm f2.8? No. Is it fun to try different portraits with the two different lenses to see just how something looks when shot wide open at f2.0 instead of f2.8? Absolutely.

So, if a young photographer is dead broke, can't make the rent, just had his car reposed and his girlfriend finally kicked him out of her apartment then (contextually) buying a new lens (or pretty much anything other than food) is just flat out crazy.

But let's say you are a famous novelist/photography hobbyist with a track record of say....ten bestselling thrillers on the NYT Bestseller's List, you're pulling down a couple million dollars a year. You've paid off your house, you bought your last couple of Bentleys with cash. You've put so much money into your retirement accounts that they are starting to look like the entire yearly budget of a third world country. At what point is it "okay" to drop a few thousand extraneous dollars on a new camera? And even if you are one of the .01 % you are so frugal that you sell off your old camera for 75% of its value on E-bay? Is that okay? Does that make sense? Is that defensible?

I'm sure there are readers here that are watching their dollars carefully. I'm equally sure that a few of my readers could buy their own town to shoot in if they wanted to... The idea that there's a set rule of thumb that requires us to remain in a camera system for life is a concept that lies on a continuum and only makes sense within the restrictions of context.

I don't have a plane. I don't play golf. I no longer ski because I'd hate to have an injury that wipes out walking or swimming. I don't have a drug habit (again, interferes with the swimming). I don't buy exotic cars (unless you are unlucky enough in life to consider a Subaru Forester to be a luxe, exotic car) but I do know that I love to play with new cameras and, in fact, am one of the very few people in our culture who knows how to leverage cameras in order to make income. Should I believe that freezing my gear requirements in amber is a good idea? Not on your life. I point to the intangible benefit of: Joy.

Hell, all of you should get off your high horses and go buy two new cameras. One just for fun and one to thumb your nose at complacency and abject fear of loss.


55 comments:

Roland Tanglao said...

Bravo! Do what works for you financially (joy is priceless!) and mentally and physically!

Anonymous said...

Hey! I resemble that!

For my last 3 cars I have kept them for at least 10yrs each. In fact collectively I have driven my last two cars for 28 yrs and 556k miles.

So what do I have to show for all this frugality?

A safe deposit box full of camera/lens receipts.

PaulB

Anonymous said...

Kirk

Last sentence of post
"Hell, all of you should get off your high horses and go buy two new cameras. One just for fun and one to thumb your nose at complacency and abject fear of loss"

What, no links?

Jay

David said...

"Everything since has been like extra cup holders or rear seat entertainment systems for the kids. fun to have; convenient, but totally unnecessary."

"There are tax advantages to deducting new gear. But most of all the new gear keeps the game interesting, fun and engaging."

"Do I need a 90mm f2.0 and a 50-140mm f2.8? No. Is it fun to try different portraits with the two different lenses to see just how something looks when shot wide open at f2.0 instead of f2.8? Absolutely."

"Hell, all of you should get off your high horses and go buy two new cameras. One just for fun and one ... ."

I think the four sentences above from your post might sum up why switching cameras and lenses makes sense for you. It's fun for you and if one is having fun doing their job it is probably going to show up in the results and possibly delay or maybe even eliminate burn out. Sometimes people become so proficient and efficient at the work that they do they will change things up and make their task(s) a little different or harder just to keep an edge. I can see that changing camera systems every now and then could be a way of doing that for a professional photographer, in addition to it just being fun.

Kirk Tuck said...

Ah, A life well spent!!! KRT

Kirk Tuck said...

Jay, I'm just not feeling the mercenary spirit right now. "I don't have time to spend the money I make already!" - Sam, from the movie, Casablanca.

Kirk Tuck said...

Roland, I always have. And it's usually really fun. At 63 I feel as though I've just started out in this profession. More!

Anonymous said...

One must have his priorities in order. PaulB

Anonymous said...

Oh, not for mercenary reasons. Just give them a chance to do a spur of the moment thing.

jay

Anonymous said...

An interesting discussion is worth comment. I do believe that you ought to write more on this subject, it might not be a
taboo subject but typically people do not discuss these issues.
To the next! Kind regards!!

David S said...

A little Subaru secret. If you put 95 or 100 octane fuel in them they go like stink. Run cleaner too.

Anonymous said...

Eloquently argued. And clearly true for you.

Sadly I know people who spend more time reading about, buying and switching cameras than actually taking photographs. It is for those people that the philosophy doesn't quite fit.

As one of the only blogs I regularly read I do not want you to change your approach either.
Mark

Anonymous said...

My favorite word these days is “reasonable”. Everything you said is a quite “reasonable” way to live a life, not to mention that you’re enjoying it. Well don. Plus you give us all some good stuff to read about...Oh, you forgot to mention your foray(s) into the Sony catalog.

Robert Roaldi said...

I was just having some fun is all.

Ken said...

Oh, just knock it off Kirk! The only thing more tiring than changing camera systems as often as you change your underwear is the irritable rationalization tirade you use to publicly flog a commenter for a tongue-in-cheek question about said system changes. You're a professional photographer that likes buying new equipment to satisfy your GAS, while having a great ROI to offset the purchase and actually make a profit on it before moving on. It's a personal choice that we should all accept, like we accept our own decisions about equipment purchases, or otherwise simply stop visiting your site if it bothers us that much. At the bottom of the comments you state "If you disagree do so civilly." But this post barely qualified and was bitchy and unnecessary, IMHO (and isn't that what all of this is about, opinions?) It should have "flown into the void" before posting.

Kirk Tuck said...

Will try that when I fill up tomorrow.

Kirk Tuck said...

Hey Robert, that's exactly the way I took your comment. No umbrage intended in either direction. I was at loose ends and wanted to write something and you gave me an inspiration. I hope you don't take it personally. Thanks! Kirk

Kirk Tuck said...

Ken... Don't know what to tell you. Some posts are bitchy. Goes with the territory. No interest in having it fly into the void because it's an answer to a question that seems to pop up a lot. I know Robert meant it tongue in cheek and I certainly haven't attacked him in the post either. Just blowing off steam which is my prerogative. I value Robert's perspective and his contribution to this blog over the years and I'm pretty sure if he has a problem with it he'll let me know and we'll edit somewhere. Now, consider going out and buying a new camera of something. At least a lens.

Ken said...

Ha! Thanks for the advice. I will... as soon as I can rationalize it! ;)

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Kirk, for acting out so many camera fantasies. These vicarious experiences save me time and money, and free me to get on with the business at hand. In my case, new gear is an obstacle, an energy sinkhole. Creativity and productivity suffer. To each his own.

Phil Stiles said...

If you don't have the turbo option, you don't need premium fuel.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-premium-g/

Richard said...

RE buying new gear, I think of the line of the general on Rowan and Martin's Laugh In, who would say "Smoke 'em if you got 'em". Or to paraphrase, buy it if you got it. Life is short.

Anonymous said...

Great post. There is a lot of wisdom flowing through it. I have often thought we were kindred spirits of a sort- both roughly the same age, photographers and avid Masters swimmers.

I'm headed to Austin for the first time next month for a couple of nights. Can you give me a couple of insider, non-touristy restaurant tips? Regional cuisine, tex-mex, bbq, whatever, would work. I am excited to shoot for a couple of days at Big Bend on my way out to Austin.

Cheers,

Mike

Robert Roaldi said...

Not at all, it was a hoot. Your original post suggested a few tongue-in-cheek future topics, I just wanted to add one to the list. Glad you had fun with it.

Here's another suggestion. You might want to write next about how to read camera manuals, you may be a near expert by now. I've owned several Olympus bodies and I have to keep re-reading their manuals because I forget what the menu acronyms and abbreviations mean.

Also, I had a couple of first-generation Legacies and know several friends who have had numerous Subie models (I used to hang around automobile rally people a lot, and Subaru was king in that world). If you lived in a colder climate (with long sub-zero winters) I'd advise synthetic lubricant in the rear diff, made a big improvement in gas mileage for me. I also used synthetic in the front transaxle, but some people on the interweb report some concerns about that. Best to check, different transaxle versions may have different needs.

John W said...

My 3 year old XT-1 is still a lovely camera and a far better one than I'm a photographer. But DAMN would I love a pair of XT-3s and a 100-400mm.

MikeR said...

You got me interested in that 28-70mm lens for my D700.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Ken. You have issues. You are not as civil as you expect others to be.

Bill Faulkner
projects@wolfpackstudio.com

Kirk Tuck said...

Bill. You and Ken are mistaken. But thank you for your off the cuff psychoanalysis. The check is in the mail...

CheezDoff said...

Ah. Mr. Tuck. Now I see what you have to put up with in order to present a blog people are interested in reading. Hey boys! It's called having a personality.

Kirk Tuck said...

Thanks for circling back around Ken. I appreciated reading your reply. It's probably good for me to get a bit of push back now and then. It's better than the silence that sometimes accompanies a blog post. But seriously, thank you. KT

Kirk Tuck said...

Thank you Robert. I was writing tongue in cheek so please ignore the "all too literal" commenters. I'm getting to work on the owner's manual project almost immediately. Drove the Subie to San Antonio this morning and came back to Austin the back way; across the "Devil's Backbone" and through Blanco, Texas. I had an ulterior motive beyond the scenery = one of the nicest car washes in central Texas is in Dripping Springs, Tx. on the way back home. Gave the Forester its first wash. Now a proud owner with a whopping 485 miles on the odometer. Thanks again for you good (and rare, apparently) humor.

Kirk Tuck said...

Even with my flagrant buying habits I have not been able to convince myself/rationalize pushing the one click button yet for either the 100-400mm or the even saucier 200mm f2.0. Ah well. I would tell you that if the sensor in the XT-1 is the same as the one in the XH1 then the XT3 isn't really head and shoulders better. I'm stuck at one with the XT3 body...

Ray said...

I got on board when you were using Sony APS/C cameras and have daydreamed at least a little a little about each of the cameras you've had since then, especially the used FF Nikon's, except for the FujiFilm system. I went to my local B&M camera store (Best Buy) and put my grubby little paws on pretty much all of the stock, and just didn't like the FujiFilm camera.

Therefore, I find myself mortally and morally offended and insist that you back away from your current infatuation and get back to writing wonderful things about the Sony ecosystem.

Other than that, I think your getting better with age look forward to reading whatever you put up next.

Michael Matthews said...

Or you could just refer complainants to Car Talk’s customer care representative, Haywood Jabuzoff.

Kirk Tuck said...

Ray. Got it. I'll head over to Precision Camera first thing in the morning and start the process of moving back to Sony. I want to be part of their worldwide conquest!!! Oh....wait....tomorrow is Presidents Day. I can't shop on P-Day. And I'll probably forget by Tuesday. Ah well, how about this: every time I mention a piece of Fuji gear just imagine I actually said "Sony." The basic function of all the mirrorless systems in pretty much the same. Should work. In fact, except for specific features I think my reviews from now on should just refer to: Generic Camera #1, #2 etc.

I'll keep writing if you keep reading. Thanks for chiming in --- it's always welcome.

Kirk Tuck said...

Ah MM. You must know that all complaints go straight to Studio Dog who mostly just buries them in the neighbor's back yard. Right next to the flower bed.

Kirk Tuck said...

Hi Mike, I really like the Tex-Mex food at Pulvo's on 2nd street. I like the authentic tacos at Torchy's Tacos, also on 2nd st. If you want incredible interior Mexican food you have two choices: the high price spread (but worth it) is Fonda San Miguel (incredible decor and artwork worth millions and millions of dollars) or the mid-range = Las Palomas. Modern/Northern Italian cuisine from a great chef at Asti Trattoria, the burgers at Hopdoddys are really good. More interior Mexican food at Manual's on Congress Ave. BBQ is currently an enigma. The renowned, perfect BBQ is Franklin's but there is some times up to a two hour wait in line for their brisket. This ends up pushing me most times to Blacks or to the flagship store of Whole Foods where they cook up some pretty righteous BBQ and the BBQ department is next door to their in house beer and wine bar. If you are staying near downtown I can give you coffee recommendations as well. Let me know. Big Bend can be a real blast. Consider getting all the way down to Terlingua. It's a whole different reality. Get in touch via e-mail if you want more details.

Craig Yuill said...

My situation is such that I generally can afford either a new camera body or a new lens for my existing system - unless I purchase a low-end or mid-range camera bundled with a kit lens. Every time I think that my gear isn't getting me the results I seek, I try a new setting or technique that I haven't tried before; and voila - I get improved results.

I would love to get one of those Fujifilm X-H1 cameras you have been raving about lately, but it's a little outside of my budget right now. And I have other priorities and needs that the X-H1 doesn't quite meet.

But I do see why you have frequently changed systems over the years. Since you shoot professionally, you need gear that is best for helping you to get the results that you and your clients want. Video features, AF capabilities, and EVF specs have been improving at a rapid rate. And the brand that has the cameras with the best combination of these features has been changing. It makes sense that you would change systems to get to those best-in-class (for you) features.

Enjoy your expanding collection Fujifilm gear...until you switch to the next system. ;-)

Anonymous said...

They think you are uncivil? I will gladly sub for you and show them-what Chicago uncivil is..

Edward Nowak said...

It isn't a question of "needing" the premium fuel, just a question of wanting what you have to go faster or better. Whether premium helps depends entirely on the programming in your engine computer. To take just one parameter, if the computer advances the ignition just to the point before engine knock starts, you'll get better performance with premium. My personal experience with Mustang V8's confirms this. Based on the comment from David S, the same is probably true for Subaru's. As for the main topic, I have some great Sony gear that I really like and that gives me good results. But I'm enjoying my exploration of the newer Olympus gear, partly inspired by Kirk's stories. My E-M5II (bought used) is my sweet little BMW: precise, agile, and fast.

DGM said...

I thought your post was a delightful jaunt through the humorous sarcasm looking glass. It is not surprising that some people take it a bit more seriously.

My personal theory is that the level of uncivil discourse at the national and world level is such that many people have developed a "hair trigger" that goes off the moment another person expresses the slightest bit of mild ire or sarcasm. It is essentially the human ego brought to the forefront and driving the bus.

In an ideal world, the ego would be relegated to the status of respected passenger, ready to be brought forward to be useful in judicious quantities, but not handed the keys.

There is a wonderful old Sci-Fi movie called "Forbidden Planet", where at one point a character exclaims "Monsters from the ID!". It feels to me that this is what we are experiencing on a national level. To cite a more practical example; If a person walks into a calm room, starts throwing a loud tantrum and begins insulting half the people in the room, that room is going to become tense and agitated. That is just the way people work. The angry human ego driven by reptile brain instincts gone wild, amplified by various nefarious agitators, both private and well funded.

I just keep surfing the crazy while trying not to get wet.

All of this is simply to say, keep on doing what you are doing. :)

Anonymous said...

As an instructional designer by profession (I design web-based training courses), my opinion on what's wrong with more camera owner's manuals is that, although they are filled with facts, they can be remarkably remiss in explain their implications. For example, if you wanted to use an adapter to mount a manual focus auto-aperture lens on a mirrorless camera, the manual would not explicitly tell you how to do it; you'd have to piece all the necessary steps together on your own - not hard if you already know how, but bewildering if you have no clue where to start.

dinksdad said...

I had a Sony RX10 IV and found it kinda big and heavy. I like my RX10 II more. Yesterday I bought a Panasonic FZ30 (circa 2005) at our flea market for $50. Why would anyone need more than that? Super-sharp Leica branded lens that goes from 35-420mm (35 equivalent). A whopping 8 mega-pixels. Nice low-res 2" screen plus EVF. Intuitive controls. I'm adding it to the couple dozen cameras I already have. I like that this blogs explores evolving camera technology. Looking forward to what comes next after Fuji . . .

Unknown said...

I can see why the the 100-400 would be of little use to you ..... portraits from down the block? Naaah! I'd use it for wildlife, something you don't do. The XT-1 is 16mp - adequate, but not exceptional but produces great BW files. A bit more detail (24mp) would be nice.

bill Faulkner said...

I read Kirk's blog every day. He has a lot of good info and I appreciate very much what he has to say (about photography). Keep up the good work, Kirk!

On the other hand, he is running his own blog, and that's the point. He gets to decide what is civil and what is not. We are not really having a conversation. He makes up what he thinks the conversation is. The Trumpers who read his comments fall in line. (Even though I know he is not a Trumper, the same thing kicks in.)

You want "hair trigger"? Read Kirk's responses.

I am not making a big deal out of this. I am just saying it is his blog and it is, hmmm, his blog. Read it, cringe whenever, and move on. Oh, and Lord forbid, and don't tell him how to write or how to blog. :-)

bill faulkner

Kirk Tuck said...

Thanks Bill. I appreciate the props. I am trying to be more inclusive and conversational.
I'm actually taking a workshop on how to better tolerate people who are just plain wrong. (humor. Not serious. No intention to damage anyone's feelings....).

bill Faulkner said...

And, now, if you could actually do something about Trump...

bill

Kirk Tuck said...

HI Bill, While I suspect you and I would see eye to eye on politics I won't go there here but will say I'd welcome the opportunity to make a portrait, in my style, of the man. I think it would interesting and I'm sure the session would be captivating. I probably won't get invited to do that until he's out of office and on a speaking tour for some major American corporation. That's where I encounter most former presidents.

Jack said...

Thanks for the great post. Also fun to read replies from those with heightened hackles.

Life's short. Do what you like whenever you can get away with it.

That's the biggest luxury of all.

Cheers

alan green said...

I really enjoy your writing and photographs. Strange at aged 89 still marvel at black and white. Wonder if days of photographic equipment are over, cant carry it all anyway. Wonder about the Sony 100 V! but when i see videos and pictures of my great grand children, marvel at camera phones.

Robert Roaldi said...

Coffee, always coffee. There's nothing like a velvety smooth cappuccino 2-3 times per week, is there.

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