9.07.2011

Got yer 80mm's of Bokeh right here......

Subject:  Will at Trianon Coffee House.  Camera: 500 C/M.  Lens: 80mm CB Planar.  Film: Kodak Tri-X @ ISO 400. Shooting near wide open at f4 and handholding at 1/60th.  Not too much coffee.  Scanned on an Epson V500.  Lighting:  Indirect daylight thru windows.


I really don't have much to say about this portrait (which I really, really like) other than to point out how nicely the stuff in the background goes out of focus.  A really nice side benefit of shooting with larger format cameras and longer lenses.  I'm loving the whole process.  Since I only have waist level finders I get to stand up and say, "Hold that!"

It's all so much fun!

13 comments:

jasonhindle said...

This has me thinking...... I know my equivalences in terms of 35mm film down to APS-C/four thirds but what about up to medium format or large format? Presumably 1/60 on a medium format at 80mm is within what is considered safe to hold with a steady hand and good technique (I have neither, BTW)?

Did you take more than one shot to guarantee at least one critically sharp exposure?

Paul Cooklin said...

Hi Kirk - this is a bit off topic but Ive just seen you use the epson v500. I have the v750 but it's on its way out due to 'crud' under the glass. It cost me, from memory, around 400 quid. I've heard good things about the v500 and its a good price but have also heard it scans really slowly - 15mins per hi-res file. Would you mind letting me know your scan times for : 6x6, no ice or dust removal @ 2400dpi. Many thanks!

kirk tuck said...

Hi Jason, It's the same basic formula but the bigger cameras have a much bigger mirror slap so we add on to compensate. The safe handholdable speed for an 80mm is generally 1/125th to 1/250th, depending on the caffeination of the shooter....

Paul, I usually scan stuff I'll be using on the web at 10 x 10 inches at 300 dpi. You can't use Digital ICE with black and white film so that point is pretty much moot. My 10 x10's are 4 minutes. I have done some really big files (24 by 24 inches at 300 dpi and they are in the 12 minute range. Not unreasonable for a scan that large.... I love the scanner. I still end up having to "spot" black and white scans but that process is much easier in the digital days.

As to quality I've had people swear that the prints at 24 by 24 had to be done on a drum scanner. I think people are mostly silly.

Paul Glover said...

I have the v500's successor (the 4490) and other than being routinely annoyed by the film holders, I'm very happy with the results I get in medium format (35mm is passable). 25MP scans off a 6x6 negative and I'm not even close to resolving what the film can hold!

Even big B&W scans are fairly quick, it's when I scan color with digital ICE that things really slow down. I don't have to spot much even without it since I started using one of those rubber bulb air blowers to clean everything right before closing the scanner lid.

Bold Photography said...

I have officially joined the 80mm club with a purchase of a used Hasselblad... I have 3 rolls of 120 Tri-x and 5 rolls of color something. I can't wait to try it out...

ginsbu said...

Paul, if your intention is to scan medium format, your might look into the v600 instead of the v500. The v600 has a scanning area of 6x22 cm for MF, vs 6x12 cm for the v500. The v600 isn't too much more.

Glenn Harris said...

I saw a Mamiya 67 with an 80mm lens in the consignment section of the camera store today and actually gave it a second glance. Fortunately I stayed strong and just walked out with my thunder gray seamless. All this medium format talk and these posts is not healthy. Perhaps I need to get my Pentax ME Super loaded with film and see if that will help this phase I'm going through.

Bold Photography said...

Glenn - as a recent convert to the MF world - I can say "come on in, the water's nice!!" :-)

obakesan said...

sit the camera on the table and angle it up?

obakesan said...

forgot to add: reminds me of the same trip of discovery I made about "shallow normals" when I was using 4/3 and wanting something equivalent to a 50 1.4

http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2010/01/shallow-normals.html

Paul Cooklin said...

Thank you Kirk and everyone who offered advice about scanners, Im going to do more digging. I don't want to shell out another 500+ quid for a v750 and to be honest Im reluctant to buy another epson as I found their service poor, but Im not sure there's another choice other than spending a lot more money. They took 180 quid to fix it and returned it in the same condition without offering a refund or anything. I have now got refund from them as they didn't actually do anything but if I hadn't of asked they would have happily kept the money.

I know the v750 is meant to be the top of line flatbed that epson do but I never scan at the highest dpi anyway and just need scans which will pass stock quality and for max 30 inch prints. If I can get a (5000 pixels) 35mp image from either the v500 or v600 of comparable quality I will be pleased. I suppose epson is the only way to go?

kirk tuck said...

What? No arguments about the bokeh?

Daryl said...

The bokeh, while generally pleasing, is hampered by areas of sharp focus that draw the viewer's attention away from the out-of-focus areas. This is wrong.

Thanks as always for the inspiration, Kirk!