5.10.2020

A Special Mother's Day Look at the Panasonic Lumix fz1000 mark 2.


Here we go again... In a puff piece (buying guide) entitled, "These are the best long zoom cameras in 2020" camera marketing Goliath, DP Review once again reprises the idea that, when compared to the Sony RX10 cameras, the lens on the fz1000 ii (which they have not yet reviewed...) (Note: Now reviewed by DPReview as of 5/11-- the "soft" description has been expunged)... is soft. When I read that I was baffled. I just picked up an fz1000 ii a week before and shot with it for a couple of days and didn't see the same results they did. In fact, it's a very sharp lens right on out to 400mm.

I thought, perhaps, that I'd missed something, or that my casual shooting had failed to show up some fatal flaw so I went back out yesterday with the fz1000 ii and shot a bunch of images; from close ups to shots taken at the longest focal length. All handheld and most at f5.6, which is one stop down from wide open, on the long end. I can only imagine that the images would be even sharper were I to turn off the image stabilization and put the camera on a big tripod. How much sharper would the camera be if, when using the tripod, I actually used the electronic shutter AND a two second self-timer delay? Whatever softness the kinder-digi at DPR experienced it did not come from the lens itself. Unless they are just incredibly unlucky in getting test cameras...

Are the files as sharp as those from a Leica R prime lens on a Panasonic Lumix S1R? As sharp? Yes. As detailed? Of course not, since we're talking about a contest between two totally different sensors/resolutions and price ranges. But, compared to cameras in its own market segment it is nicely sharp and a very good photography machine; especially considering the purchase price. 

The fz1000 ii is a third generation model of the fz series, 20 megapixel, long lens bridge cameras from Panasonic. It features a 25-400mm f2.8- 4.0 zoom lens and a BSI sensor. While some handling improvements have been made over the previous two cameras the compromise is that many of the video features I really liked in the fz2500 have been stripped away. No more built-in ND filters, no super high quality codecs and no headphone jack. But it's agile, fast to work with, has a great zoom range and the color and detail in the files has been improved over its closest sibling; the fz 1000 (originally). 

I own both the fz2500 and the fz1000 ii. They are not manufacturer supplied "test" cameras but cameras purchased through the powerful procurement arm of VSL.

When I took the camera out for a double-check spin yesterday I outfitted it with a ho-hum polarizing filter. I tried to use careful technique and was also quick to turn off the "touch AF" option for the rear screen. It's nice to use the touch AF in the studio where your nose is not right up against the screen but when shooting like you would any other conventional camera with an eye level finder I think having the touch AF screen enabled introduces some of the problems that less advanced photographers seem to be having with this line of cameras. Owning a camera and spending time with it is important in understanding how to optimize it for all kinds of shooting situations.

While the camera is not small it is light and easy to carry around for all day projects. For travel it's nearly ideal, unless you really need a camera that will fit in a pocket. 

I found that at every focal length the lens, the camera, and the camera's processing, did a great job at making files that were nicely sharp but without apparent sharpening artifacts. I would have no issue recommending this camera to all but the most remedial of beginners.


 VSL H.Q. Where all the magic happens (sarcastic smiley face emoticon implied).


Just being silly and playing around with Luminar 4. Why would you want to 
introduce a planet into your images? Maybe because you've just finished 
a Star Wars movie marathon.... 

 the entire frame. 
 the bottom right hand corner of the frame. More than 100%.

400mm, handheld. click to see larger.
 Shot from across the lake. 
Real sky. Not Luminar sky...


Why do I keep coming back to these all-in-one, long lens range, 20 megapixel, one inch cameras? It's the same reason, I think, that people buy Swiss Army knives and small SUVs. I know that a Swiss Army knife, with its big assortment of blades, corkscrews, screwdrivers, etc. isn't going to be an effective close quarters combat knife and I also know that I wouldn't want to screw in a bunch of wood screws using the screwdriver tool but... it's easy to carry and can do a very decent job at everything from cutting open a package from Amazon to opening a nice bottle of wine. I've pulled cactus thorns out of my skin with the tweezers and re-tightened loose camera screws after long flights with its smaller blades. It'll do a fine job cutting rope or tape and I can even file my fingernails with it.

The model I have has scissors which work well on paper and also on emergency nose hair trimming for those times when you are parking your car and getting ready to go meet with a client and you look in the rear view mirror and notice a particularly egregious and inappropriate nose hair that has somehow gone public.

The "bridge camera" does the same kind of multiple duty. It wouldn't be my first choice for making a file for a super-fine detailed, point of purchase sign that will be reproduced life size, nor would it be my first choice for documenting a serious swim meet for a magazine. But... it handles most day-to-day tasks well. I can shoot product shots for the web with it, even engaging focus stacking, if needed. I can shoot portraits with it, now that image selection is a piece of cake in PhotoShop and I can do a quick post production operation to defocus backgrounds. I can take the camera out for a hiking adventure and get beautiful shots from far away and seconds later deliver a very wide shot without changing lenses in the field. The bridge cameras can also do decent macro stuff and deliver high shutter speed flash sync for those times when harsh sun calls for some handy fill light.

If I slip on a rock and the camera crashes onto granite 20 feet straight down it's cheap enough that I won't shed a tear. We'd do a brief ceremony, salvage the battery and memory card and chalk it up to poorly conceived risk taking.

But it's not just that bridge cameras are a more fun substitute for a lot of situations that used to require a more traditional camera it's also that, at the touch of a button, they can become quite good video cameras. Even though the fz1000ii would not be my first choice for a dedicated video solution the 4K files it creates are absolutely great if you see something and want to catch some great video on the fly.

With a decent audio device like a Beachtek DXA Micro Pro pre-amp I can use a professional XLR microphone and monitor, at least, what's coming out of the pre-amp via headphones. If I match that with careful level settings in the camera I can get decent audio for an impromptu interview. Would the fz1000ii be my first choice for a dedicated video project? Or a client video project? No, not really. But if I was out on a hike and ran into Sebastio Salgado and wanted to do a quick interview on the side of a mountain I wouldn't feel the despair of being unprepared; I'd be able to get usable material with my Swiss Army knife of cameras.

If budget was never a consideration would I still choose the fz1000-ii over the Sony RX10 IV? No. The Sony is a slightly better camera. Mostly in regards to its better video capabilities but also, for sports shooters and the impatient in general, the phase detect AF is a bit faster when using C-AF. The Sony camera (if I can extrapolate from previously owning the model 3) is built like a proverbial tank too.

It's got a headphone jack which is great and I also like the aperture ring on the lens. But is it worth twice the price? and, since it's nearly twice as heavy will you really enjoy carrying it?

If I did not have a steamer trunk packed with full frame Lumix and Sigma cameras, and dedicated lenses, and could only choose one camera to own and use for every project I would ever encounter the RX10 IV seems like a front-runner. But that's not the use case I currently have so I've got a deep investment in the full frame stuff. It all made so much sense before the current pandemic and the halting of projects.

But, for a camera that is more of a hobbyist accessory for me the fz1000ii clicks the right boxes, from image quality to lightweight portability. It's a great compromise for someone who already has too much sunk into cameras of all kinds.

What am I doing for Mother's Day? Well, my mom is no longer with us so I'm making sure Belinda has a good day. I brought home her favorite flowers this morning and this evening Ben I are making coconut shrimp, sirloin steaks, mixed roasted carrots, a tropical salad and lava cakes. It'll probably be a big mess but we've both (all three...) worked in food service so I don't think we'll mess up too badly. In a typical negotiated bargain I bought the groceries so the boy has to do all the clean up. We'll both take turns preparing the various dishes. Any which way it turns out I'm sure Belinda will be delighted just to see the boy.

I might even bring a camera into the house...

Planning ahead. Looking for more adventure opportunities here in Texas. I'm thinking about heading west in the next week or so to explore parks out near Marfa, Texas, including Ft. Davis State Park and Big Bend. I'm looking for some challenging hikes and some non-technical climbing opportunities.

There is also a state park out by San Angelo, Texas that I know nothing about...yet.

But just to make it all different I thought my next park foray would be a video project. Especially since I have two Panasonic cameras that do nice video AND have flippy screens. TBA.

Hope you guys engineer a nice Mother's Day for someone special. We'll catch up again tomorrow.

KT

12 comments:

Jeff said...

Perhaps Panasonic has failed to purchase as much 'advertising' as Sony has. Not that this could possibly influence a totally unbiased review.

Victor Bloomfield said...

You make a good case for the FZ1000 Mark II. But I've been struck by the similarity in convenience and results with the micro 4/3 combination of Panasonic Lumix GX85 mirrorless camera (which you praised a few days ago) with the M.Zuiko ED 14-150mm f4.0-5.6 II zoom lens. The lens is equivalent to 28-300 mm full frame, which is the zoom lens that Jay Maisel uses on his walks around New York City. The combination is somewhat smaller and lighter than the FZ1000 Mark II, has a bigger sensor (which compensates for the slightly slower and shorter lens), and costs only slightly more at current sale prices. I've used it happily for a couple of years. And of course one has the flexibility of interchangeable lenses on the rare occasions that they are needed.

Kirk, Photographer/Writer said...

I'm still a fan of the GX85 and still have mine. I don't have the 14-150 but I do have the Lumix 45-150 and the 12-32mm lens. They all work well. Panasonic makes darn good cameras.

FoToEdge said...

I always pick up my Panasonic Lumix GX9 with my Lumix 14-140mm lens attached. I was considering adding the Olympus 12-200mm lens to use with the GX9 on sale for $795. But now that you started me thinking about the new FZ1000 Mark 2 and FZ2500 Lumix Cameras, I am unsure. Would either of these cameras be a better choice for a casual walking photographer/real estate agent? I need a bit more wide angle for buildings and a little more reach for compression effects and old building and sign details. What do you think about choices? Thanks for continuing to share your adventures and processes with all of us. Happy Mothers Day 2020.

Kirk, Photographer/Writer said...

The 12-200 is a great lens. That and the bigger pixels on the GX9 would tip the scales for me if those were my choices for work. For sure.

A Foolish Man said...

I guess dpreview heard your complaints about a lack of review ;) what a rush it must be to have this level of power ;)

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-fz1000-ii-review

Eric Rose said...

DPreview gave the FZ1000ii a decent review all things considered. It must be remembered that DPReview is owned by Amazon and I'm sure they have some influence over what products are gushed over or panned. Or maybe I'm just being cynical.

Eric

Kirk, Photographer/Writer said...

To be fair, I too think the Sony RX10IV is a the "better" camera, all things considered but it is twice the price of the fz1000ii which puts it in a whole different category...

I'm glad they reviewed it and showed comparisons with the Sony. While the Sony may be slightly sharper it would only be apparent to those who are actively searching for differences while examining files at 100%.

Sorry I had to be so harsh with them but amazed that they were able to review camera just one day after my critique. Clout indeed. 😆

jorge said...

I read your thoughts on the FZ1000 Mark 2 with great interest, especially since I just got another camera in the series (the FZ2500). I was tempted by the Sony RX10 IV, but was not willing to pay the premium price. I ended up settling on a used FZ2500 with less than 3,000 clicks. I was concerned about reviews I had read, including the ones from DP Review, that criticized it for soft images, but so far I have been pleasantly surprised with the images I am able to get, even at or near the full 480mm telephoto end in 35mm equivalency, a focal length I use quite regularly when taking pictures of butterflies.

As a photography enthusiast who rarely prints much larger than 8 x 10, I find that bridge cameras can give me great results, are much more convenient to work with, and easier to lug around. As time goes on I rely less on my DSLRs.

Jorge

David Evans said...

This is a great discussion, and very useful for me. I have a Lumix G9 with the 14-140 and the 100-400 lenses, also a Nikon P950. I've decided that lovely as the FZ1000 is I really don't need it when the 14-140 is so convenient. Buying the 12-200 would make more sense.

JC said...

I can't really say it's annoying, because I don't annoy that easily, but I'm always somewhat bemused by comments like the one in the DPR review that said if you rely on Panasonic's electronic viewfinder too much, the battery use goes way up and you run out of gas at 290 frames or so. Excuse me, but I spent years running out of frames at 36. And I know it's a major handicap to carry around a second battery that's about the size of your thumb, but sacrifices must be made. With my GX8, I usually have two or three spare batteries, just in case I'm there when the world ends. So far, I've managed to struggle through.

Bob said...

How to make a photograph?

https://photogaard.blogspot.com/2020/04/why-photography.html