"Why does that photographer shoot so many images of each scene???? He must get paid by the frame."

A photograph from the opening night show of "The Beauty and the Beast" at Zach Theatre. With Meredith McCall, John Christopher and Martin Burke. Photographed with a Panasonic GH5 and the very nice Olympus 40-150mm f2.8 Pro series lens. Get one. They're great!!! Sorry no affiliate link for you...

It always comes up. "Why do you shoot so many frames?"

I'll look at the results of a photo shoot; either a portrait session or a dress rehearsal, and I will have shot something like 100+ images for a "simple" (no such thing) portrait or somewhere north of a 1,000+  images for a two hour dress rehearsal of a live theater production. That's a lot of frames!

I've watched other photographers work hard and with much gnashing of teeth shoot ten for a portrait and a couple hundred for a live performance. Am I just stupid or am I a gluten for editing punishment?

I'll give myself the benefit of the doubt and toss out a rationale based on my personal experiences.

In making a portrait rapport with the sitter builds as you spend time together. There's a rhythm to the shooting; a cadence almost, and it takes most sitters some time to accept it and then, ultimately ignore it as they become more and more comfortable with the whole process of being photographed in a studio. In most cases we could probably toss the first dozen or two images and be pretty confident that the best stuff will come around the 2/3rds point in the session.

In addition to the "warm up" frames there is also the question of micro-expressions; little changes in expression that are more telling than one might at first believe. Little things like tension around a subject's mouth or eyes, a smile that's forced. If you see these things shooting more frames gives you time to re-direct conversation or direction and head into a different look. And, as I suggest, sitters get more comfortable over time --- if you engage them genuinely and with good intention.

After we get things happy and calm I might see and expression or gesture+expression that I really like and then we shoot more frames while we fine tune all the details, from the way hair falls to the way a collar sits on someone's neck, all the while working back to that great expression/gesture. It takes frames and a certain amount of trial and review to get things where you probably want them.

Once you have some really good frames the last 20% of the shoot is spent seeing if there is any way to improve the work and get even better frames. It's easy to see how you could get to 100 or more images in twenty minutes or so of working with a portrait sitter.

Yes, if you only took 12 you might get a useable frame but would it be a good frame? Would it be a photograph that both you and the sitter would be proud to share? The numbers are your friend in this case. You can throw away all your mistakes in the editing phase but the big mistake is to not have taken the great image in the first place, constrained by your own overly frugal regards for digital frames....

But what about show photos? Well, you are still looking for the perfect expressions but as in the image above we now have more parts in motion. We have three people, all moving, all expressing all doing their parts. In a world in which I would have absolute and complete control, an endless budget and infinite patience I would photograph each actor individually and with every variation of pose and gesture I could think of and then I would select the best frame of each actor and drop them into a master frame.

But that's not the reality of theater photography. You don't have unlimited access to actors. You don't have infinite budget for retouching and compositing and the theater probably wouldn't want that service if you could provide it. They value authenticity over perfection.

So we overshoot each scene so that we can be reasonably sure that there will be at least one frame in which everyone looks great, has their eyes open, is turned in just the right direction and in which the photographer has nailed composition, focus and exposure. Oh, and good handholding technique. As weird as it may sound your "perfect" selection ratio might be one really good and usable photograph out of a series of 50 or 60 that don't really make it.

With theater you also have to add in the reality that this may be the first time you've seen the productions and have no idea what comes just after the shot you thought was going to be the ultimate keeper. I keep shooting because I don't want to stop only to find the very next second or minute or whatever holds an even better version of the frame I just shot. We can always trash the frames that don't work but we can never get frames we lost by assuming we'd already hit the peak of action only to take our eyes off the prize just as it turned to gold. A little extra shooting and a little extra editing is the price we pay for looking for the potentially great shot in a sea of adequate shots.

And that's why I shoot so many frames.

One last thing. I may be partial to a certain look or gesture or expression but I try to shoot beyond my preferences because clients may have different tastes, points of view, or understandings about what constitutes a great image for their marketing efforts. In a very real way I'm shooting get stuff for me and for them even if the stuff in question is shot in two different ways. At least, if I overshoot, more of us will be happy with the final choices we get to make.

If I were shooting still life stuff to a tight comp we could probably get the shot in three frames....and two of those would just be safeties...

On a different topic (kinda): I wish Olympus made lenses for other camera makers. I love my m4:3 cameras partly because the two Olympus Pro lenses I use are so darn good. But I'd love to have them make a 25-125mm f4.0 lens for full frame Nikons and Sonys because I'm almost certain they'd blow the doors off what the big boys put on the market. And I know their image stabilization would also rock. Ever thought about what would happen if every photography player just played to their strengths? The lens I described just above with Nikon or Canon color science and Sony mirrorless tech? We couldn't even use a system like that. It would be too good for most uses. We'd end up crying over the lost potential........

Maybe it's just the heat talking...


Anonymous said...

Well said. We had a fantastic consummate professional photographer for our wedding 30 years ago. Regardless, one of my groomsmen had his eyes closed in every one of the high resolution medium format pictures. It's a numbers game if you are dealing with blinkers.

ODL Designs said...

Hey Kirk,
I recently did a few events, and in a similar vein to theatre you are balancing all the variables of the camera with all of the people in the frame, as well as their eyes, mouth, arms and legs :) We can move very quickly through a review process, but swapping a head is much harder!

On your other topic, it would be fun if companies made products for each other... but in a funny way m43rds is the mount that most embodies that experience with a slew of modern lenses from many suppliers, and adapters what work for all the rest.

As I have written a few times here I have lost most of my lust for larger formats, and the f1.2 lenses have pretty much finished it off. Have you had a chance to shoot with one yet?

tnargs said...

What do you think, Kirk, of the connection between Fujifilm and its deep colour science background via Fujifilm emulsion technology? What do you think of the logic that suggest that Fujifilm might have the most advanced colour science of them all?

Kirk Tuck, Photographer/Writer said...

tnargs, I think the color science and the lens mastery are the two things that give Fuji a competitive place in the current market; the camera handling not so much. One or two more generations of body design and they should have it nailed in. I like the general look of Fuji's files for skin but not so much for stuff that should be color accurate.

Kirk Tuck, Photographer/Writer said...

Abraham, I keep coming back to the two Olympus Pro zoom lenses and they keep delivering pretty incredible files. After shooting both the Nikons and the Panasonics at the show this week I'm just about over my recent flirtation with the big cameras and ready to dive back into my love affair with the GH5. The two lenses I'd like are the 17mm f1.2 and the 45mm f1.2. And maybe I'll make a point to trial the G9 body as well. It's a pretty stellar m4;3 universe at this point.

ODL Designs said...

Hey kirk, I would be interested to hear your thoughts on them. You know, you have quite an effect on the internet if cameras with a sudden surge of writing on older Nikons :)

Gato said...

Maybe Olympus does not need a full -frame camera. Maybe they could start with a line of full-frame lenses, maybe worry about the camera later.

RE: your main points, when I started in newspaper a more experienced photographer gave me this three-step approach to covering an assignment:

Step One: Get a picture. You can never be sure how things will break or how much time you have. Get a publishable photo as quickly as you can.

Step Two: Get a better picture. Once your ass is covered concentrate on working for something better.

Step Three: Repeat Step Two as many times as possible. You never know how much time or how many opportunities you will have. Keep building as often and as long as possible.

Overall, sounds a lot like your approach.

Rufus said...

Oly lenses are great on 4/3 but it does not mean they would make great lenses for larger sensors.

Similarly, image stabilisation is so much easier when the sensor is small. It does not follow that if Olympus did larger sensors, the image stabilisation would be any better.

I am all in on Fuji these days - X-T2 and X-H1, and they are great. I would heartily recommend them, if only they did video better. The X-H1 is'nt bad at video but the Panny GH5 is still a much better video hybrid. It seems unmatched at that job.

Panny GH5 seems like your natural home, with the big Nikon rigs when you need the large files for stills and the wider working envelope they offer. Just stop getting sucked into blimps and stuff. You will be wearing a photographers vest at this rate and black rapid harnesses to support the weight. You really don't want to go there... :)

Brooke Meyer said...

Your description of portrait sessions is spot on and pretty much what I explained to a Mom yesterday in studio while her daughter was changing. When I've photographed theater dress rehearsals for plays my frame count is similar. This afternoon I'll photograph a ballet performance and I'll shoot at least double the frames for straight theater due the added complexity of dance and necessarily higher shutter speeds. The Jazz Dance Company is worse, they love very dark stages.

Frank Grygier said...

I would like to chime in on the Olympus full frame lens topic. Olympus has made lenses for their OM 35mm film cameras years before Four Thirds. These lenses held their own with Leica and Zeiss in image quality. I think Olympus has the lens making experience to make a lens for any format.

Edward Richards said...

Kirk - do you have a post on editing down those 1000 images efficiently? Jay Meisel's advice boils down to that you have just started shooting when you think you have the image. It is the same notion of capturing the nuances that make the great shots. But his solution to editing is assistants.:-)

Noons said...

Agree entirely on the Oly lenses for other systems.
Since I started using the m4:3 Sigma DN 60/2.8 and the Oly Pro 12-100/4, my Nikon dslrs have been gathering dust. The EM5MII gets all my attention.
If anything for the Nikons was anywhere near those two lenses on that camera, I'd use it. Nothing I have is anywhere near, and for the price I doubt they can be matched.
Very tempted by the Fuji and Sony gear, might give it a go at some stage. Only thing that stops me is I don't know what macro gear there is for those - close-up and macro work is a big thing for me at the moment, now that Oly added focus stacking to the EM5MII with the latest firmware.

Anonymous said...

Why so mnany shots? It's called insurance, as there are no reshoots. Plus blinkies and odd facial ticks that always seem to show up on what *would* have been the best shot.

Morgan said...

Hi Kirk,

Recently picked up the Panasonic 12-60 f2.8-4, might be up your alley? Seems to be a good performer