This it the S1R that I bought in October and which failed completely in January.
I was excited to plow into the Lumix S1 Pro system in the last quarter of 2019, not the least reason was because I'd read over and over again, in Panasonic's marketing materials and in reviews, about the "fact" that the S1 series was built to a very, very high standard of quality, with superior materials and workmanship. The shutters are rated to deliver something like 400,000 actuations and the bodies are dust and splash resistant. They are stout and feel solid when you pick them up.
Added to this, my previous experiences with a long line of micro four thirds, Panasonic Lumix cameras convincingly led me to believe that my newest acquisitions would be ultimately reliable. And it's good, in this context, to remember that I am not a photojournalist with a collection of cameras swinging from my neck and shoulders as I run from disaster to disaster with multiple cameras dangling from straps, willy-nilly, while banging into each other with gusto and creating that "great" patina of brutal wear you often see on cameras owned by P.J.'s, or other people who mistakenly believe that cameras are designed to be more like bumper cars than precision instruments....
No, I mostly use cameras one at a time. I carry them to and from advertising and marketing shoots in padded, Think Tank cases or backpacks. I don't drop them, toss them or neglect them. In fact, when I trade in cameras the general comment I get from store clerks is, "This camera looks practically new."
Imagine my chagrin when I was in the middle of a portrait shoot (in studio, camera on tripod) when the camera became sluggish and slow to respond. Then slower and slower. And then altogether dead. Later, after I finished the shoot with a back-up camera (yes, they do come in handy) I tried every trick in the book to bring the camera back into normal life. Batteries switched out with known good batteries. All manner of card changes. Reset tricks. Everything. What I had in my hands was a catastrophically crippled, brand new camera with fewer than 1,000 actuations on it.
I sent it back to Panasonic for their official repair service. In less than two weeks the camera returned and I put it through its paces. Everything worked just as it should. The sensor and the main circuit board had both been replaced, the firmware updated and all functions checked. All good. Until I took off the body cap to put on a lens. And there is was... like a turd in a punch bowl... a big fingerprint right in the middle of the sensor. I was shocked at first and then just pissed. And I got in touch with both the local dealer and the Panasonic rep for our area. The store offered immediately to clean the sensor.
I pulled out the Eclipse sensor cleaning fluid and a fresh Cinema Sensor Swab and did a good job of cleaning the sensor myself, but the carelessness of it all really irked me and I pressed the Panasonic rep to just replace the camera with a new one. One complete product failure followed by a clumsy repair failure seemed to add up to a jinx'd camera.
Communication with repair was dicey and the rep told me several times that they would take better care of me if I paid a couple hundred bucks and registered for their pro services service. My feeling was that every customer who buys a top of the line camera model deserves the same kind of service. They can't possibly have enough pros signed up yet on a brand new, not so popular product line, to be overwhelmed by priority repairs.
After several attempts to escalate I was finally contacted by someone at Panasonic service. Here was their offer: "We might consider replacing the camera but you need to send it back to us and we will investigate all your complaints and may or may not agree and may or may not make amends. In the meantime we'll send you a loaner if you give us a credit card number and agree to guarantee the cost of a camera in the meantime.
I would essentially be sending multiple cameras back and forth with no guarantee of either a stated timeline or final resolution. I told them I would think about it.
Then the Corona virus hit. Then the shelter in place hit. Then the world seemed to deliver me a much more compelling set of issues to deal with.
One day I walked into the studio and made up my mind to let it all go. I'd shot non-stop with the repaired and personally cleaned (by me) camera and, after over 1,000 actuations in less than a month I figured the camera would probably be fine. I've been using the repaired camera instead of its twin brother just to put enough frames on it to help me trust it once more.
I think we're just about there. It seems to be doing everything just right. And it's a perfect companion for the 35mm Art lens from Sigma.
I'm lucky to have three other bodies (one other S1R and two S1s) in case the camera acts up again. But my warm and fuzzy feelings for the company itself (Panasonic) are now less warm and much less fuzzy. They need to work harder to regenerate some good will. But for the moment it's all water under the bridge. Considering how much really tough stuff so many people now have on their plates it seems downright churlish of me to give this even a moment's worry.
I thought I'd let you know what finally happened. What happened was my capitulation to the idea that the camera is fine, the pictures are great, and all the logistics of replacing it are too silly and burdensome to consider.
But when the crisis is over and we're all flush with cash again it's probably Leica or Sigma that's getting more of my L-mount money. Panasonic is on a time out where my cash is concerned.
Finally, the S1 and S1R are two of the finest cameras I've had the pleasure to shoot with. In almost every respect they are a perfect match for my idea of what a camera should be in 2020 and beyond.
Was this the camera that took a tumble last Fall? If not, hows that camera doing?
ReplyDeleteThe service plan upsell attempt is odious.
Of course, a Leica may actually be a Panasonic, just as at one time some Leicas were Minoltas.
ReplyDeleteRay. Nope. That was one of my first S1s, not an S1R. That one is doing fine and has had no problems.
ReplyDeleteHi AJCarr, I don't think so. While the sensors might be identical the throughput of the Leica is much, much faster, has more video capability and a totally different color look. Also the body construction on the Leica uses their "carved out of an aluminum block" construction rather than Panasonic's more traditional body moldings. Different animal down to the $279 battery....
Ahh, what a pain. It does seem so silly for companies to treat customers that spend a small fortune as if they grow on trees.
ReplyDeleteMany company's don't realize how important customer service and interactions are in today's marketplace.
Wow, 4 camera bodies, makes me feel justified in picking up an em1.3 to go with my 2 em1.2 bodies... I will just explain to my wife that many professionals actually keep 4 plus a Sigma ;)
Enjoying the busy blog Kirk!
I have very mixed feelings about Panasonic. I've got a G85 in repair at the moment and getting it into repair was a nightmare trying to get the Australian Panasonic repair contractors to take it. It's been there quite a while now, more than a month, and no word on when I'll get it back. Mind you that's better than my experience with the Panasonic Leica 100-400mm lens which was faulty straight out the box and just wouldn't focus (tested on 3 bodies) and both the retailer and Panasonic would accept it under warranty nor would they replace it. So I think if Panasonic want to be taken seriously by professionals they are going to have to act in a more professional manner themselves. The small amount of video I do shoot is now done on my Olympus EM1 mk ii. Olympuses service here in Australia is exemplary.
ReplyDeleteKirk, i feel your disgust, even though i'm a panasonic fan-boy. They make good RELIABLE cameras, but everyone seems to think their warranty maintenance and service are 2nd rate. I've owned 20 of their bodies, and 35 lenses over the past 10 years w/ zero problems. I do understand, however, that their LENS QA (according to Roger C @ lensrentals) is not up to standard. In fairness, he said this of ALL m4/3 lenses. This has been somewhat apparent to me, but not a critical issue. Their 1" cameras are particularly suspect for lens QA variation... but they are otherwise excellent, and much cheaper than Sony equivalents
ReplyDeleteStay well my friend
Sorry about your troubles with Panasonic. However, I can report only the most positive things about two other brands you are or have been using:
ReplyDeletei) Fuji UK has a superb repair service in place. I had to use them several times, and they have not only a rapid turnaround time but also do fixed price repairs if out of warranty. https://repairs.fujifilm.eu/en/fujifilm-repair-centre/?zr=uk
ii) With an old Sigma DP2s camera I once had an issue with the sensor (there were some hot pixels), and even though the camera was of warranty I sent the camera to Sigma for repair and it came back fixed at no charge! Not even for posting! It took a while, because they sent it to Japan for repair. And they actually did repair it (not replace with new) because it was the same camera body and camera still had the with same internal serial number etc.
So in terms of service nothing but praise from me for both Fuji and Sigma!
I’m on my third LUMIX 50mm 1.4 lens right now. Got into the system when it launched in April 2019.
ReplyDeleteLast summer I was doing a client portrait session and while the girl was changing outfits I reviewed images and noticed the last few I took were a blurry mess. It was then I noticed the IBIS had shut off. I notified Panasonic and they immediately INSISTED they replace that lens. I thought it was a software bug but nonetheless I had a new lens within days.
That new 50mm held up great through 30+ weddings last year and then a few weeks ago the manual focus system broke. I sent for repair and again within a week a new lens arrived. I’ve used it around the house, but COVID-19 has all client work on hold.
Anyway, I think new systems simply struggle at the beginning and that sucks for us early adopters.
You obviously got some bad customer service which was the opposite of my experience and that is something they will need to address going forward.
I agree, the S system cameras and lenses are outstanding and Panasonic is SO CLOSE to getting this right. Let’s hope they dig in and do so in 2020. Let’s also hope that we can all come out of this crisis as unscathed as possible. I hope I’m not unemployed for all of 2020 and I hope Panasonic will not be hit too hard as well as I’d love to see where they take this system. I was hoping for more fast primes this year, but may not be able to justify the purchase if work continues to evaporate.
Hope your S1R continues to work without issue!
Hello,
ReplyDeleteWell that's disappointing.
On another note, I would love to read your take now on the Pentax K1 Vs the Lumix siblings.
Thank you as always.
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