4.21.2023

A quick note on photography blogging.



I've got a few ethical questions about blogging about the photography space. Not easy ones like: "should I have affiliate links?" but more along the lines of, "Just how much personal information should a blogger be sharing?" "How much personal information do audiences really want?" "How close to the primary/core area of interest should bloggers stay?" Lately I shared way too much information about my infernal refrigerator. (It's now working as it should and has been for about ten days now.... recompense for expenses  received, warranty extended). And I never mind sharing stuff like how the swimming is going. Or what I'm planning for upcoming vacations. Even something along the lines of fun and positive, but non-photographic events in day to day life. Ben's graduation from college. B's retirement.

But I feel queasy posting about childhood traumas, colossal personal failures, failed relationships, abject  fears of mortality and decay, or non-business related setbacks. I'm also not a fan of family histories or "might have beens." And I definitely would never want to share my financial information or net worth online. For any number of good reasons.

But here's the deal, if we read the same blogs for years at a time we develop a sense of community, and a penchant  sharing, feedback and a sense of mutual give and take. If someone like myself is willing to put life stuff out there in writing it should be assumed that, as long as comments are enabled, I'm willing to accept feedback, praise and even reproach (or gentle course correction) from my readers. I don't always agree with or like the feedback I get from tilling the soil of blogging but I should expect to get it. If it's ad hominem attack material I have the option of deleting a sour comment but generally, even when a reader disagrees with me such as the recent chiding I got for converging architectural parallels I post it argue about it and then, sometimes (as in the case of Mr. Benson's comment) realize that maybe the other guy is right. And that I've over-reacted.

With photographic content this is easier. You can argue fine points about photography for hours and mostly walk away unscathed. But when we start dredging up regrets, painful episodes in life (see my swim post from earlier today) and ruminate over material that's purely indicative of something going wrong or trending in the wrong direction, it's harder for me to see where the lines are drawn between jumping in and commenting or sitting on the sidelines. Always quick to keep an eye out for entropy and dystopia. 
Some of my readers seem to think there is a code for writers which disallows us to rebut bad ideas or awkward philosophies. I don't agree. I think we have the same rights of critique and criticism as everyone else. But, again, I may be wrong. But so much of life is beyond binary. It's endless shades of gray. Or grey. 

I'm pretty comfortable with my knowledge base when it comes to most stuff that's photographic in nature. And I think I have long since learned to navigate doing business in a profitable way. When it comes to close personal relationships I try to stay relentlessly positive.  I have only to post a celebratory note about celebrating our 38th wedding anniversary to bring a smile to my own face. But where I get in to trouble is when I assume that all other people will make smart decisions on their own behalf. When I assume that people want to be happy. When I assume that some attitudes and habits are symptoms of misplaced martyr syndromes. Or pathways to depression. But I'm only seeing the top layer, not the whole cake.

If content creators were physical friends instead of virtual friends I would have no hesitation in sitting them down and trying to help. And I would expect the same in return. But with web friends, other than having read and commented on common material we have no other common, personal touchstones, no real bonds and no real understanding of the underlying person. We can conjecture, read into the material in a sort of "between the lines" manner but we might be wrong much more often than we are right. And our ability to change someone else is iffy to negligible. 

As I look over the 5,000+ blog posts I've shared I find that this one itself is so far afield from the subject matter that this channel is supposed to be about. I wonder if most of the long term photo bloggers have so exhausted our primary subject matter that we are now either into endless repetition or, on the other hand, the airing of our grievances with the bad hands we think we've been dealt in life, or just the unexamined but desperate desire to cling to some vestige of relevance. I know the last part is true, in some sense, for me. 

It's disquieting. This misplaced sense of wanting everything to go back to what it was. Wanting blogs to be as fresh as the day one discovered them for the first time. Almost desperately wanting them to be about what they advertise. When I feel like this I should learn to just turn off the lights in the office and go for a walk. No one asked my opinion anyway.




 

33 comments:

David said...

Honestly Kirk,
I think you should talk about whatever you want in your own blog. If you don't like it later, you can delete it. Try to find your own balance for amount of shared information. I try not to share anything personal online in discussions. But thats just me.
For some reason I like your writing style and read everything you write. Many others may feel the same way. So just do want you want.
This can also be a platform to get information. Maybe next time ask your readers what fridge they would recommend? That may have saved you a pound of hair.
Or not, as we don't all know your needs.
David

Kirk, Photographer/Writer said...

David, Thank. By the way.... I'm not above wasting money on a new refrigerator. Suggestions?

Anonymous said...

"But I feel queasy posting about childhood traumas, colossal personal failures, failed relationships, abject fears of mortality and decay, or non-business related setbacks. I'm also not a fan of family histories or "might have beens." And I definitely would never want to share my financial information or net worth online. For any number of good reasons."

I think one difference b/n that and your swim story was that the swim story was not a woe-is-me exercise in self-pity, which TOP seems to run toward lately (at least that's how I perceive it, though I've been known to be wrong about how I perceive things!) Fwiw, the more MJ does all of the above, the less I even glance at TOP. I removed it from favorites bar but still check it a few times a week by typing in the address - and if I see mostly the above type stuff, I just close out of it. I no longer bother to go to TOP to click on Amazon links either - just don't see the point. But I like what you write, so I am still checking this regularly.

I don't have any pithy advice or a smart comment to make - the above is my only observation, fwiw.
Ken

Anonymous said...

"But I like what you write, so I am still checking this regularly."

Reading my comment after clicking on publish, I realized that without verbal and visual cues, it may seem patronizing or conceited. I didn't mean that you need my approval or anything like that - just wanted to state that I enjoy your writing style and even the off-topic stuff, whereas I haven't really enjoyed TOP when it ventures into TMI / too personal territory. Put it another way, I like it enough that I'd even pay a small amount to subscribe to this blog. (though thankfully I don't need to!)

Ken

crsantin said...

Tough to say. I suppose you should share only what you are comfortable sharing. If you start to question it, like now, then perhaps take a pause from sharing personal anecdotes and take some time to reflect on where you want to draw that line. I'm fine with people sharing personal experiences. I quite enjoy it actually and I'm also fine with sharing my own personal experiences, to a point.

I check in here every day just to see what you've posted. I don't follow any other blogs. The number of Youtube photographers I follow has dwindled. Most of them are just peddling gear now for sponsorship money or kickbacks on sales clicks. Youtube has lost its charm. A few times I've asked myself, is Kirk my friend? I know a bit about him through his writing. He knows little about me. We've never met nor shared a meal together. Can you be friends with people online? I would have to say no, though I do like to think that if we had the opportunity we probably would become friends and I'm happy with that assessment. I think the same is true of a good number of fellow readers here. Many of us seem to have enough in common that I think there would be some great friendships here. I hope you keep writing here. This has developed into a nice community. I will miss it when the time does come for it to end. Get as personal as you want, or not. It's all good.

Anonymous said...

Hi Kirk,

I have enough cringe worthy episodes of my own to want to read anyone elses. Swimming- good. Photography & related business- good. I think you strike a nice balance. I honestly read you for inspiration, and I get that in spades.

Cheers,

Nigel from Hamburg.

John said...

I’d like to have some idea of a blogger’s or YouTuber’s background. If they’re a good content creator, I’m also open to just good storytelling that it’s a bit off-topic. But not too much. I actually let a pal of yours know the other day that I was getting a bit tired of the lack of content for which I’m supporting him. Can’t do that with you, but the two of you are really just mirror images of the same issues: too much info related to getting older, one moaning about it and one showing off his efforts to stave it off. I’m about five years behind both of you and I don’t care one way or another. But the occasional side step s appreciated.

Peter Manns said...

Hi Kirk. The fact that I read your blog means that I’m interested in your opinion.

Tony said...

Hi Kirk, I enjoy reading your blog every day, and it's not to just for your photography insights from your experience. For many of us photography is part of our life and I enjoy the aspects of everyday life that you share with us (including the refrigerator saga). Please, keep writing!

Eric Rose said...

I enjoy your blog just the way it is. Nice balance between personal, gear, images, business and the odd hissy fit. In other words very human and very well written. I read your blog whenever you post something new. Yours is the ONLY photo blog I read anymore.

Eric

Michael Matthews said...

You write it, I’ll read it.

Jon Maxim said...

Here is my suggested rules for writing a PHOTOGRAPHY blog:

1) It's your blog, you can write anything you want.

2) I suggest the blogger mainly focus on photography topics. If in doubt see rule number 1.

3) You can write anything you want that is not about photography. If in doubt see rule number 1.

4) If you write something that others don't like or feel is inappropriate, they can either a) stop reading it or b) let you know about it in the comments - whereupon you can choose to modify your content... or not. If in doubt see rule number 1.

I like the criteria for content that you have set for yourself and I think it makes for a great blog. If in doubt... you know...

Frankly, your blog is the first one I always read (unless MJ beats you to it) and I really enjoy your mix. Since I am older than you, I hope to continue reading it until I die.

P.S. I don't care if Ben likes ellipses or not...

MikeR said...

I've read your VSL blog and MCJ's TOP blog for over ten years. In that time, I feel that I've gotten to know both of you ... a little bit. You each have your own "voice" and viewpoint. About things in the realm of photography, and things far removed. Truth be told, there are times when both of you annoy and exasperate me, and I want to yell "grow up!" But I haven't stopped reading, because you (pl) put out valuable insights and observations. So long as you (pl) come back around to something photographic, (by this, I do NOT mean "gear"), I'll keep coming back.

adam said...

this is one of the websites I look at, perfectly happy with it the way it is but if you want to change anything, knock yourself out, I think you balance the amount of personal info you share fairly well, but once again, if you'd prefer to share less, up to you... the red dot on the x-t5 turned out to be a hot pixel which I've not encountered before but there is a setting in the menu to calibrate them out, normal service is resumed... it's a great camera, seems to be able to knock out images at iso 125 in twilight practically at 1/250th

Rich said...

personal anecdotes are usually riveting! And i am of the sort who has very few secrets - mostly transparent. But ironically the partners i have had in life have been almost opposites.
This is definitely a sensitive issue, and no one can say what's best for you. But me, i think there is so much good 'chemistry' that comes from getting more real and personal in our communications. Vulnerability can feel risky, but it can truly elevate the value of discourse!

Merle said...

We had to replace our 34-year old GE in 2021 and disliked every refrigerator we looked at until we found this one by Fisher & Paykel. Really like the build quality: The drawers actually feel like someone crafterd them, the doors work very well, the proportions are just right. Can't imagine it will last as long, but you never know.

Dave Jenkins said...

I think you strike a good balance, Kirk. In the intro to my own blog, alifeinphotography.blogspot.com, I say that my blog is about photography, about life, and about my life in photography. I think you do pretty much the same thing, and with a lot more content than I can muster.

Gary said...

I read your blog every day. If there are parts that don't interest me (e.g., the refrigerator) I skip over them. And the gear prep for assignments, particularly with Leicas that I'll never own and Sigma lenses that I don't need. But that material may be important for professional photographers, so while I skip over it, I'm sure other readers delight in it. It's your blog and I hope you keep writing it. There's enough general photography material here to keep me interested.

Roland Tanglao said...

What Michael and Jon said: namely
"You write it, I’ll read it."!!!! (I read your novel and enjoyed it as well!)

Joachim Schroeter said...

Hi Kirk, first of all thanks a lot for being such a prolific blogger in first place, with seriously photo content to boot. Getting the personal touch here and there creates for me what you call the community. And if it’s an off topic I‘m not interested in myself, I just skip the post, or reading all of the post. Simple as that. Thanks a lot for tilling on, please.

Alex Solla said...

I think the simplest answer to why folks want to read about more than just photography and business factoids, is that over time, readers of your blog have come to know you, in as much as they can while having not met you in person. Your personality comes through loud and clear in your writing. It's a gift! You have been sharing your thoughts on something as complex as the intricacies of photography with the same level of compassion and consideration some might save for their deepest philosophical ramblings. Photography and writing both seem to allow you to exist in this virtual space... and your audience has also picked up on this.

I love the internal dialogue about what to share, is this oversharing, where do you draw the line? I wish more folks who took up writing sat down to ask those questions first. Not that it isnt worthy of being written, but the nature of sharing it can have enormous ramifications.

All of which is to say, I still come here, year after year, day after day, not because I want to look over your shoulder and read about your latest camera acquisition. Rather I thoroughly enjoy the way you write and think. It is much like I imagine it would feel to sit in a coffee shop or on the pool deck, hearing a quiet conversation. That is a gift.

Mike Marcus said...

As I have said here several times before, I find your blog to be like getting regular letters from a friend. Photography friends don't just talk about photography but include other life topics over coffee, wine, beer, or through cyberspace. Your balance is just fine with me. As for TOP, I still place MJ in the same category as I do you, but I am having a tough time getting all that excited about BW photos, a format I pretty much left as soon as I could afford Kodachrome at maybe age 14 when I started mowing more lawns. It can work well sometimes, but I just don't seem to have much of a bias toward enforced color blindness. I sometimes think I would almost like to see my copy of "Yosemite and the Range of Light" done in color...

Biro said...

I can't add much to this discussion other than to say that Mike Marcus' posting above about how he regards this blog and your postings is spot on for me, Kirk. I certainly do not mind it when you stray off subject. It's always interesting to me in the way one wants to know how a friend is doing. Can virtual friends become "real" friends? I suspect so and believe that many members of this community feel the same way. As an aside, I pulled a "Freud" the other day. I was discussing your recent post about the Leica Q2 with a colleague and referred to you as a friend. I guess that says it all. You do you, Kirk. I and many others will be here as long as you wish to share with us.

karmagroovy said...

I enjoy the off topic posts as much as the photo-centric stuff. You're like a singer with a really good voice who can sing multiple genres (ex., Linda Ronstadt). I think a large majority of your readership (myself included) are roughly in the same age demographic as you so I think that has something to do with a kindship with the trials and tribulations you share.

Congrats on your 38 years of marriage with B! I'm one year ahead of you with my marriage. Any ideas on how to celebrate 40!? :D

Jon Maxim said...

Sorry, to carry on on this topic, Kirk. This blog is so central to what makes my days brighter that I feel I have done you a disservice by not addressing your feelings about freshness of topics and tiredness.

I cannot begin to imagine the effort that it takes to create and maintain this blog. Making Jon happy just cannot be enough justification. If you feel that it is just taking up too much of your life or just fed up, no-one can blame you for turning your attention to something else. All I can say is we owe you great debt of gratitude for what you have already given us and hope blogger will continue to host the topics to which I continuously refer from time to time. Like other commentators, I feel like I am listening and talking to an olde friend here. My only regret is that we are limited to one off comments and sometimes your reply when what I really like to have is a more in depth conversation on topics that fascinate me. To be continued...

Jon Maxim said...

My only regret is that we are limited to one off comments, and sometimes your reply, when what I would really like to have is a more in depth conversation on topics that fascinate me (I keep on trying to justify a trip to Austin, but I have a COO too).

I do believe that you will continue to have plenty of new content to write about for the rest of your life. Witness current AI/ML trends that will continue to affect the progress of image making for a long time. Hardware may be a little less interesting as we are already seeing incrementally smaller improvements which really don’t make that much difference. I think this is particularly true of lenses where is seems that we have reached a real levelling off of incremental improvements in IQ. I guess if someone can make a exorbitantly expensive Summicron or Otus lens for $100 and the same quality, that would be quite revolutionary. Otherwise, for me, the thing I would love to have is a set of narrower apertures (e.g. 50mm f/4 or even f2.8) and EXTREMELY high quality and low weight and am always searching you reviews and others for their existence/development. But, I think I am too narrow a market for that. The Fuji f/2’s come close but I ditched them because the sharpness is simply not good enough for me.

The progress of cameras has also seemed to plateau but I think that firmware can be improved immensely with things like AI/ML so there may be more write about there. I guess if they make a 1 Terapixel sensor so we can use just one sharp un-distorting 12mm FF lens and crop it right down to a 1,000 mm lens FOV, that would be very interesting. Of course, the camera would have to have enough extremely fast internal storage of about 1 Petabyte. :)

Robert Hudyma said...

Be thankful that your Refrigerator did not Explode.

Refrigerator explodes, destroys kitchen.

The refrigerator was filled with R600 refrigerant. R600 is butane. There was a leak in the system. The gas hugs the ground when released. There was a spark, probably from the electronic control board.

And the refrigerator exploded.

JC said...

I basically read both your blog and MJ's because I'm seriously interested in photography as an art form, and I have been since my early teens working with an Argus C-3. Both of you (in the past) have nicely mixed personal stuff with photo stuff. MJ still does most of the time, but in the past few months he's drifted deeply into the personal/psychological which doesn't interest me so much, basically because I can't relate very well, and that's not what I'm there for. I enjoyed your refrigerator posts and the falling tree posts because they involve very specific life events that I *can* relate to, the kind of things that mess with my own work. (We had a yard full of people at the crack of dawn this morning spraying our piñon trees against bark beetle, which are a plague here. The only time I operate at the crack of dawn is when I'm there from the night side; I'm 5,000 words out on a new book with a May 1 deadline, and I work to 2 a.m. I do not appreciate loud machine noises at 7 a.m.) I think you strike a nice balance. I actually read you for the camera-specific stuff and how you do things, and MJ doesn't really go there; I consider him more of a writer and critic than a photographer. You're basically responsible (at fault?) for my ~$3,000 purchase of a Fuji X-T5 and two lenses, for which I am grateful. I'm really enjoying it, and will probably buy another body. MJ has done more on photography per se -- the history of it, who's good at it, who you should look at, and that sort of stuff. He is more responsible for my own small collection of B&W photos than any decisions involving cameras. Anyway, I like both of you, and I hope you keep doing what you're doing. And I hope Mike gets more back on track with photography (as opposed to camera) commentary.

Anonymous said...

...too much information about my infernal refrigerator...

Having recently purchased a GE refrigerator in January, I am very interested in this topic.

DavidB

Craig Yuill said...

As others have mentioned - your blog, your choice of topics. If Mike Johnston can go “OT” with posts about pool and vegetarian diets then you should be able to write about swimming, 49th Parallel coffee and donuts, and unreliable appliances. And I think that information about your family has been fine. I know some things about your wife and son, but not too much.

If you absolutely need to replace your fridge, consider mid-range Whirlpool/Maytag or LG. Some people swear by Frigidaire, but I tended to swear at two Frigidaire fridges that we had and fell apart. Too many cheap parts that easily broke. And stopped working after only a few years use.

Yoram Nevo said...

Kirk, all I can say is that I love you and what you write.
I can’t, and don’t want, to tell you what to write or not to write.
The fact that me, and all the others, are coming back to read another post is the proof you’re doing it right!

Kenneth Voigt said...

I like your personal and off-topic comments

Nigel H said...

As with so many other comments on this post, I love the balance between photography and other topics. It is your blog, after all. Also, the style that you write is eminently readable - I have been put off novels because of the dreary style of writing!
One other observation about when you're writing about camera equipment: because this is stuff you are using not just reviewing for click bait, it feels more authentic to me.
Keep on writing! Please!